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AlternateFire1

USA
534 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2008 :  20:51:12  Show Profile  Visit AlternateFire1's Homepage  Send AlternateFire1 an AOL message
Ok.. I am wanting a new PC and I'm also wanting your suggestions..
(Plz keep them realistic and in my price range)
I am trying not to spend much more than $1000...
so if you guys are not busy, put some ideas together for me,
within that range, and im sure i'll agree with you on it..
Yall know more about whats good together than i do :)
Thanks for any help...

What I want suggestions on:

=Motherboard
=Memory
=Processor
=Hard-Drive
=Sound-Card
=Video-Card
=Tower
=CD/DVD Burner
=Cooling fan(s)
=whatever else i forgot...

i dont need a monitor, speakers, or any of that stuff.. just whats inside the tower (is the easiest way to put it) haha

AlternateFire1

USA
534 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  00:47:20  Show Profile  Visit AlternateFire1's Homepage  Send AlternateFire1 an AOL message
and now arises another problem...
after reformatting tonight, which ive done 3 times now, the windows installation freezes while "Installing Devices" with exactly "34 minutes remaining" each and every time i do it...

first reformat, froze...
reformatted again, froze again, and again...
reformatted again, froze again, and again...

so now i have no desktop at all, no games at all, and if any of you have suggestions as to what is going on, that would be great! Cuz im sure you fellas would have some type of sympathy for ur fellow gamer, who can NO LONGER GAME AT ALL! my computer [rif] and me!
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Raider

USA
613 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  09:57:28  Show Profile  Visit Raider's Homepage  Click to see Raider's MSN Messenger address
Try removing all of your expansion cards from the system, including your video card if you have onboard video, which I'm sure your "Gateway" does. This will let you know if it's hanging on a device that is in your computer. If this doesn't work then get a different disk and try it again. If all else fails try another hard drive, I'm sure Adam or someone has a spare drive laying around.

Sounds like you better expedite that new pc. If your looking for assistance building your new pc you should probably consult the thread labled "Jack Comp." There is a lot of good info in there that would also apply to all the questions you've asked about a new pc. If you don't want to spend more than $1,000 then I'd say you don't want to build a real gaming system. But if I get some time, I'll throw together a budget gaming system and see what it tally's up to.

This thread also belongs in the tech support area for future reference.
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Knightrew

USA
428 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  10:02:14  Show Profile  Visit Knightrew's Homepage  Send Knightrew an AOL message  Send Knightrew an ICQ Message  Click to see Knightrew's MSN Messenger address  Send Knightrew a Yahoo! Message
Why don't you try running diagnostics on system make sure your hardware is OK. Like ram/cpu

http://www.memtest86.com/
You will need a working pc to create the ISO image cd.
Once cd is create boot off your cd and let it run a while see if system locks up or maybe see errors with ram.

After ram test is ok test your hard drive.
What brand of hard drive do you have Western Digital, Seagate, Ibm, Maxtor? They all have some diagnostics tools to check your hard drive for problems.

If no errors on your hard drive test.
Windows could be hanging on a driver the PC does not like.
Take out any extra PCI cards you don't need and try installing Windows again. If you have on board video and you have a PCI Express video plug in take that out try to make pc as simple as you can to get windows on it. You can add the stuff later once windows runs.

What was the problem you had before?

Was the pc locking up before you formated it?
If so lock up problems can come from from about anything in your pc.

On your new pc don't buy another Gateway or even a Dell for a gaming pc. Cause they have standard main board in them. Buy a real pc with a main board that [bm]



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Knightrew

USA
428 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  10:10:17  Show Profile  Visit Knightrew's Homepage  Send Knightrew an AOL message  Send Knightrew an ICQ Message  Click to see Knightrew's MSN Messenger address  Send Knightrew a Yahoo! Message
Sorry Raider I did not see your post when I type my long message. I guess we think the same on the video card. LOL!
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Raider

USA
613 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  10:13:45  Show Profile  Visit Raider's Homepage  Click to see Raider's MSN Messenger address
Mainboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130082
$105

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
$275

Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227278
$160

Video Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317
$310

Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153039
$170

Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153039
$80

DVD Burner:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118002
$30

Case:
Kevin's choice (allocate approx. $120)

Total Cost: $1,130
That is before rebates, after rebates and add shipping, you're looking at right about $1,100

You could shave another $100 off by going with a Core 2 Duo E6550 instead of the Quad Core...
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WesM63

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  12:50:03  Show Profile  Visit WesM63's Homepage  Send WesM63 an AOL message  Click to see WesM63's MSN Messenger address
Mainboard (if single video card):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196
$139

CPU:
Same as Jeremy. or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117129&Tpk=X3210
$249

Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122
$99

Video Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130319
$289

Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005
$139

Harddrive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148288
$119

DVD:
Meh, just pick one, all the same.

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137&Tpk=cm690
$79

Fans:
Depends.. get some quite 120mm fans if you get the case above. You can use the stock CPU fan if you wish, but i never do. LMK if you want a suggestion on that.

Total: $1,143


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AlternateFire1

USA
534 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  14:59:49  Show Profile  Visit AlternateFire1's Homepage  Send AlternateFire1 an AOL message
ok... Tell me what u guys think about this stuff... I took some of ur suggestions and then some others...

Hard Drive:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3255389&sku=TSD-250AS7

CPU Fan:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2844210&sku=T925-2034

DVD/CD Drive:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3205935&sku=L12-1051

Video Card:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3484817&sku=E145-8822

Power Supply/Mainboard/Memory/CPU/Tower
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3442434&sku=P450-9102%20C

Most likely this is what i'll be getting... Let me know what you fellas think about it all!

Thanks for the help!

Edited by - AlternateFire1 on 01/04/2008 15:01:07
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WesM63

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  16:03:04  Show Profile  Visit WesM63's Homepage  Send WesM63 an AOL message  Click to see WesM63's MSN Messenger address
Kevin,
Not a bad idea. However, I would advise against that 8800GTS unless its a G92. No point in spending money on old technology.

Here is eVGA's 8800GTS G92:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130312

The ultra combo thingy is cool, but let me give you a few tips.

The case BLOWS. I have one, shotty, and super cheap aluminum.

The mainboard is the low end LT chipset. I'd stay away from 680i if possible. (Slower than the intel chipsets and 680i is known to have problems with quad core cpus) If you plan on going SLI, get 790i.

I'd stay as far away from Ultra Power supplies. I've hear so many horror stories about them. Just randomly dieing, blowing up and taking out system components.

2gb is the bare minimum anymore, do 4gb if you can.

To be totally honest, the setup would be fine. Its just not made of the best components and i would bet something won't last longer than 6months.

If your spending the money, get good components.

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WesM63

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  16:27:52  Show Profile  Visit WesM63's Homepage  Send WesM63 an AOL message  Click to see WesM63's MSN Messenger address
I just re-vamped what I had and got it down below what that stuff from TigerDirect would cost you and a much better system to boot.

I just emailed you the newegg wish list.
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AlternateFire1

USA
534 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  16:59:52  Show Profile  Visit AlternateFire1's Homepage  Send AlternateFire1 an AOL message
ok.. well im not as good with the computer components and such as you guys are.. not even close.. i am just trying to take all of your suggestions on a new PC for me..

I will most likely have $1200 to build a new gaming PC for myself.. I just needed some help picking out the best stuff, for the money i have to get it..

Wes - I didn't get an email about it.. My address is ::Admin DA removed email address:: if that is not what it says in my profile.. So if you would please, re-send the email..
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AlternateFire1

USA
534 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  17:20:59  Show Profile  Visit AlternateFire1's Homepage  Send AlternateFire1 an AOL message
Okay... Here we go again, haha... The links to the stuff im getting is here, (mostly the ones jeremy provided, thanks jeremy )

Mainboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130098

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227278

Video Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317

Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153039

Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262

DVD Burner:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118002

Case/Tower:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811226005

And again, any comments you guys have are appreciated (like yours Wes, thank you)...

Edited by - AlternateFire1 on 01/04/2008 18:27:04
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WesM63

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  17:21:19  Show Profile  Visit WesM63's Homepage  Send WesM63 an AOL message  Click to see WesM63's MSN Messenger address
Thats odd, same email address I got from your profile.

I emailed it again.

EDIT:

That list isn't bad. Again I have a few grips thou.

The video card, again. Go with the one I linked above. Its the newest G92 chipset. Same specs and newer chip. It is another $50 thou. I'd just hate to see you spend the money on old and already dated technology.

The mainboard is the only other thing. 650i? Yuck, thats worse than the 680i problems. I'd stick with Intel Chipsets (P35 or X38 do a filter on newegg) unless you want SLI, then the only SLI chipset i'd recommend is the new 790i.
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Raider

USA
613 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  17:41:32  Show Profile  Visit Raider's Homepage  Click to see Raider's MSN Messenger address
No problem, Wes and I will always differ on what we recommend, I'm more brand oriented than he is. You'll always see me quote an MSI mainboard because they are rock solid and it's a noob board, sometimes the Asus boards can be a bitch for a novice to setup. This is not a crack against Asus, they do make a good board but to a newbie the bios "can" be confusing. Evga is the only video card I will use until I have one fail on me. I like the lifetime warranty and their support is "rated" very well. Beyond personal experience and hearsay I'm just using my preferences, Wes reads a lot more than I do and is much more knowledgeable on that stuff than I am. I don't take the time to get all involved in it. I know what works for me and I just roll with it. I would definately use Newegg over Tiger though, I would even use ZipZoomFly over Tiger...

Wes what's your reading on the PCI-E 2.0 cards reveal? From my understanding there's not really a performance increase correct? Just less power???

Kevin give one of these two boards a shot the x38 boards are going to be way out of your price range:
Asus:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131189
MSI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130098
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AlternateFire1

USA
534 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  18:01:23  Show Profile  Visit AlternateFire1's Homepage  Send AlternateFire1 an AOL message
what u mean "way out of my price range" though...?
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Raider

USA
613 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  18:17:10  Show Profile  Visit Raider's Homepage  Click to see Raider's MSN Messenger address
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200280+107172333&name=Intel+X38%2fX48

Search by lowest price, you'll see what I'm saying...
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